"Sweetheart Club" & "Good ol' Boy Club&q

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12 years 11 months ago #375 by Gulchman
I am asking for general feedback about the "sweetheart club" or "good old boy club " policies at Macdill AFB and Nellis AFB. The policies in question involves advanced reservations for extended periods of time. Which means in peak seasons the parks belong to a select few people, everyone else is S.O.L. The fact is, more than the select few folks are entitled to stay on the base, be more secure and save a few dollars. All comments are welcome. Before you reply, please declare whether or not you are a "sweetheart clubber" or a regular traveller. Thanks..Gulchman

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12 years 11 months ago #376 by Navyzone
I have stayed at McDill twice for short periods. Both times during "high" season. No reservations, just called the day we wished to stay. No problem.

Lenny Julius
USN RET

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12 years 11 months ago #394 by USMC69GySgt
I've been called a "Sweetheart" by many!...I traveled to Nellis during the peak season in the past... knowing that reservations are required, I just make them...knowing what's expected makes is smooth sailing on my part....If I have a break down or something comes up where I can't make it as scheduled, I call....they've always accommodated me with no problem! Same with McDill!......Semper Fi!

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12 years 11 months ago #412 by Retired CPO
Not only have I been called a sweetheart but I AM a sweetheart ;D. I stayed at McDill three days in NOV last year without reservations, just called the day before. No problems and I could have stayed a couple more days (and would have) if my schedule had allowed it. Now, about this sweetheart club...How does one get in? I think I'm about half way there already ;)

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11 years 5 months ago #4101 by Bjudib60
same thing was going on at McCord... It took an office worker who stuck to the rules and got tired of the "manager" giving special preference to her "special customers" to bring it all to the surface. Hence, both workers no longer work there and there appears to be some pending investigations into other matters that were not appropriate also.

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11 years 5 months ago #4103 by monkey44
This particular issue has been talked about extensively here ... the problem generally is the winter season in the south and those individuals that make reservations time and again early, and take most of the sites. Then, in order to "meet the rules" for equal sharing, some sites are set aside and rotated between some arrivals, when the majority sit on the same spot year after year for months at a time ...

I personally have stayed at MacDill numerous times at different times of the year but if anyone expects to get a site for a couple days during January to March or April -- you're out of luck unless you dry-camp in overflow with no services.

I've even been told at MacDill once I had to move off a site becasue it was booked "next week" and we have to get it ready -- WHAT??? What's to get ready -- sweep it off?? I was a little upset with that ...

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11 years 5 months ago #4106 by usn600
All mcg's should be on a first come first seve basis with NO reservations. They should have a two week limit, first in first out. The limit would only be in effect when the park is full.

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11 years 5 months ago #4107 by monkey44
usn600 -- in general, that would be a reasonable policy -- but yhen we'd have no hosts or 'volunteer' maintenance

But, what happens to the guys that do actually "host" the MCg, or do the maintenance??

Well, that would also be fine --let 'volunteers' stay longer. But then, we end up with "good ole' boy' network that "NEEDS" ten helpers ... it's often a no win situation because there is no real policy MCG wide that sets the rules and enforces same -- and there we have the problem.

If MWR set one host on small MCGs and one additional helper on medium, and two additional helpers on large MCGs -- and limit the stay for everyone else, THEN we'd have a system that works for all the AD and retired, and others that can use the Recreation system as it is intended.

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11 years 5 months ago #4111 by cdrcos

All mcg's should be on a first come first serve basis with NO reservations. They should have a two week limit, first in first out. The limit would only be in effect when the park is full.


I'm OK with limits on stays as long as they are stated up-front, but I strongly disagree with the concepts of "no reservations". >:(

As some have noted above, the best way to travel is to make reservations and know where you can stay for the night or longer. I can't imagine the hassle, not to mention waste of fuel, that would be involved in driving hundreds or even thousands of miles to take a chance on a vacancy.

Some state and National Parks take reservations on most of their sites and keep some open for drive-in's and I don't have a problem with that. That way you know if you have a reserved spot or are taking a chance.

Joe & Barb
2016 Winnebago Vista 31KE
Shoreview, Minnesota
Sun City Center, Florida

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11 years 5 months ago #4112 by monkey44
No problem here with reservations -- long as the reservation time limit is reasonable ... and some sites reserved and some 'drive-in' would be best as well.

Like cdrcos says, some like to plan ahead. But some like to free-range sort of. The best way is probably a mix of both ... and at least some kind of time-limit

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11 years 5 months ago #4116 by DutchStar38
I think reservations are fine but a SIX month advance reservation? NO WAY! Maybe 1 week in advance. IN addition, how in the heck do you justify telling someone to move because the site has a reservation. You have got to be kidding me. Let the reservation person stay in overflow especially if it was a reservation made a month or more ahead. Why in the world does anyone have to make a reservation a month ahead for an RV? It's insane!!!! It's abuse!!! It's rude!!!!

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11 years 5 months ago #4117 by monkey44
QUOTE: "Why in the world does anyone have to make a reservation a month ahead for an RV?"

Because all RV'ers are not fulltimers or retired, so the family wants to make plans for leave etc ... so it's not so much the "advance time" as it is the length of stay and/or filling up all sites with reservations that would seem to me more of a problem.

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11 years 5 months ago #4118 by DutchStar38
OK, you call a MCG 4 days in advance and want to stay 2 weeks but the few sites reserved for first come first serve are full and all the other sites are either occupied for 3 months or have reservations made 3 months ahead which would overlap your 2 week stay so you can only stay 1 week. I guess since you are a fultimer or retired then you should just be pleased you have 1 week or find another place.

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11 years 5 months ago #4123 by rvgrammy1953
Being full-timers and like most folks here, on a limited income, we have to plan our travel plans....the cost of gas has us re-vamping how we live our life-style...use to be we could go, spend a week or 2 at one place, then go to the next place....but this year, we plan to spend 1 month at each destination so that we can enjoy that locations "things to do" and still be able to eat..... ;) So we will be making reservations in advance when we can......and expect to have a site with hookups advertized, waiting for us when we get there (don't even put us in overflow...especially if I've paid a deposit!)......We've been at this for 5 years now and know not to go to the "Good ol' Boys Club" places, unless we want to boondock......and the "no reservation" places, we'll call ahead to check for avaliblility ......no point in wasting gas if there's no room for time we want to stay, we're flexible..we'll find another place.......So our motto is to plan and be prepared in advance.....less stress on you.....

Lori and Dock

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11 years 4 months ago #4369 by karylkc
Hello all. We stayed at Nellis in July!!! Yes it was very hot 115 or so. However, our daughter was attending seminars in Vegas. Obviously there were plenty of available sites and we live in the desert anyway, so the heat didn't bother us. If you've been there, I'm sure you love the people in the clubhouse; wow, they were great! BTW, we are new with the RV travel, but think this will be a normal thing for us for the rest of our lives. Semper Fi

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11 years 4 months ago #4370 by karylkoch
to: Karyl, I saw your name and almost fell over, okay was already siting down. If you look at my posting name, you will see it listed as Karyl, which is my first name. Is Karyl your first name? Sure is nice to see someone else stuck with the same spelling. ::) ??? :o

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11 years 2 months ago #4826 by JohnL
I think DM AFB in Tucson has a great system. No reservations and a 21 day stay in full hookups during high season. The first time we were there we had a four day stay in dry then 21 days in FU. Back to dry for about a week and then back to FU for another 21 days.

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