Another reason I don't use KOA

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12 years 1 month ago #1681 by oldchief46
Another reason I don't use KOA was created by oldchief46
A good friend is up in the northeast part of the country and picked up an ad for the KOA in Bar Harbor, MA. The following is an except from the ad.
What is wrong with this picture when the biggest campground company in the nation is willing to give Canadian citizens a bigger discount than it is willing to offer to ACTIVE DUTY U. S. Military personnel?

"A warm welcome and special offer for our Canadian guests.
Stay with us this Spring or Autumn and save 20% off your entire stay on any type of site...tent, hookup RV sites, kamping lodges or kabins. This special valid from May 4 through June 22 and September 4 through October 13, 2007. We appreciate your business!

Military "Thank you" Discount of 15% off We wish to honor all active U.S. military personnel with a 15% discount. This discount is good on any site type from now through October 15th. Just print out this offer to present at check-in and show us your active Military ID. Thank you for your dedication and service! Valid Dates: 5/1/2007 to 10/15/2007"

Rick Stone, YNC, USN(RET)
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2006 Chevy HHR
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12 years 1 month ago #1682 by skyking8
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Why would anyone want to use a KOA? They are notriously noisy due to being close to highways and extremely overpriced for what is offered.

Is this not akin to asking you if you want to press TWO for English when calling an American company?

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12 years 1 month ago #1687 by cdrcos
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I agree that it does look bad, but upon further reading, it is not as bad as it seems.

The dates that the Canadians are offered the 20% rebates are considerably "off season" for US travelers. We have vacationed in Bar Harbor and everything seems to be reduced until July 1st. The military discount is through the whole vacation season, including the prime time - summer, so it really is the better deal.

Could have been written better to make that clear. Wonder why they didn't just offer the 20% off to everyone, including Americans, for the shoulder season periods?

Joe & Barb
2016 Winnebago Vista 31KE
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Sun City Center, Florida

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12 years 1 month ago #1708 by FastEagle
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Hey, OldChief,

KOA Bar Harbor is in ME not MA and guess what? Its real close to Canada. So what?s the problem with giving them a slight break just before and right after the northern camping season. A 15% discount during the tourist season is hard to find when you?re that far north. For those of you that are occasional users you should be aware that they are a nation wide campground provider and are franchised. Like just about all large franchises you will find some bad apples in the lot. Since going full-time in 03 we have used KOAs nation wide from Maine to California and Florida to Minnesota. You can drop in to any one of their campgrounds and get a catalog and join their network. Network members get a 10% discount and after 12 uses you get a gold card (15% discount). You will find a real junky KOA in Savannah, GA. A spacious one in Fayetteville, NC. An expansive one with to many rules in Myrtle Beach, SC. A really nice long term KOA is in Starke, FL and they have low monthly rates. A FHU 50 amp site for the night in Baker, CA is always a welcome sight. Just about all KOAs offer tent sites, cabins, and an RV section. They almost always have a store and are close to a major highway and that makes them very appealing to the overnight rver. When we?re on the move and can?t get to a Military or Good Sam campground we seek out a KOA.

FastEagle

2003 Everest 363K 38' 14K
2004 Dodge 3500 STL-DRW-QC-LB-2WD-4.10-AUTO-CTD
USN Retired - PDRL
DOD Retired - Aircraft Mechanic
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12 years 1 month ago #1711 by monkey44
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FastEagle -- do KOA ever turn you away if they are full, or do they have overflow?? My biggist complaint about any CG is that if they are full, they just kick you down the road, and when you're tired, it's not as safe to continue.

I know, I know, planning, planning, planning -- but we don't always plan and sometimes even when we do, it doesn't always work out. So, it would be good to know that KOA has overflow, even for occasional usse only ... M44

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12 years 1 month ago #1715 by skyking8
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Considering that we all are looking for the most value for the least money...as in staying at military famcamps....why would anyone want to pay the exorbitant prices that KOA charges? They are a 40 year old campground concept that now only exists because of marketing strategies - some of which have been mentioned as quotes in this thread. They could give a 25% discount to US card holders and military members and still be ripping them off.

Using a KOA is a personal preference and should be respected. Let's just be glad that we don't own one of their campgrounds.

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12 years 1 month ago #1717 by monkey44
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I use military as a first choice, and then Feds, and the State Parks ... and one problem is they are not always where one wants to visit -- so, it's nice to have alternatives -- but have in the past stayed at KOA when nothing esle around and always thought too, too, too pricey ... would never make it a "choice"...only a "necessary" ... M44

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12 years 1 month ago #1726 by FastEagle
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In my previous reply in this string I mentioned that we are full timers. We live on the road therefor we are not campers and never use overflow or Wal-Mart parking lots or rest areas. We hunker down twice a year for 3-4 months. This past winter it was the foot hills of SC and our next long stay will be in Yuma, AZ for 4 months where we already have paid for our reservations. Our normal travel day is between 275 - 325 miles. We never make reservations when we are on the move because we never know how long we might want to stay at the next stop. We may spend 2-7 days depending on what we have planned for the area. If a military reservation is in our path we make a point of staying there if a site is available, if not, we move on. Twice a year we stay at NAS Jacksonville, FL for two weeks and make our reservations well in advance as that?s where our kids live. KOA like almost all commercial Campgrounds/RV Parks-Resorts get a fee for their sites and seldom have any land left over so yes they do have to turn you away but most will point you to a place that has a spot for the night. You know what? I just remembered staying at a military overflow site. It was at NAF El Centro, CA. It was a paved parking lot with a ball field behind it. It was a FHU with 30amps - see images 17 & 18 in the campground section under El Centro.

FastEagle

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USN Retired - PDRL
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12 years 1 month ago #1730 by bblhed
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I looked at this thread and thought about it, I really can see the KOA point of view on this one. They get the Canadians in there with a discount that is steeper than the Military Discount, but then they get to hit the Canadians with currency exchange fees, and whatever other foreign fees they can. Plus you have to figure that they are probably trying to get Canadians to come into the area and spend money. Perhaps the local chamber of commerce or some other tourism body in the area is supplementing the discount for that particular KOA.

There are only two major chains of Campgrounds that I can think of and they are KOA and Jellystone park. Lets face it, when you are traveling in an RV and see a KOA or Jellystone sign you know that is like a person traveling long distance seeing a Holiday Inn sign. You expect that when you pull in there will be a campground that is clean, all the hookups will be working, there will be a pool, laundry, and some sort of activities, along with that some of them will have a lounge/bar. The biggest advantage to these campgrounds is that they are watched over by their parent company so that when guests arrive they are assured of a pleasant stay even if it is just an overnight. The problem with these campgrounds is that you do pay for it.

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