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Sponsoring civilian guests to military campgrounds 2 years 7 months ago #14085

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I'm seeking some advice regarding my possibly sponsoring a relative, who's not ever served in the military nor worked for the federal government, into a military campground. Here's the "rub": this relative graduated high school in the late 60's &, as he was subject to the draft at that time (actually I've been told his was the first class subject to the lottery drawing & his birth date was the first # drawn!). This relative made the decision to apply for Conscientious Objector status, was approved & spend a period working in a hospital as an orderly. Never in the time that I've known him has he ever uttered anything I'd consider disparaging towards those who DID serve, but he does tend to socialize & speak freely. My concern is, as I've noticed that topic #1 at many military campgrounds I've stayed at is "What branch did you serve with?" or "When did you serve?", that the topic could come up &, as I'm a retiree after serving 28 years, I've know many folks who may not be comfortable with someone with the history of "C.O." staying at a military campground.

I understand I could simply say "keep your mouth shut", but I'm curious as to what others who post here might say on this subject? Am I making too much of this OR could I possibly be opening a big "can of worms" here? Thanks in advance for your input!

Sponsoring civilian guests to military campgrounds 2 years 7 months ago #14086

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I wouldn't worry about his CO status. Sounds like he made a case to support that classification and was granted it. Someone might take exception but I don't think most would. During that time there were many "deserters" fleeing to Canada or some other way to illegally avoid serving. If he was occupying a spot that would go empty except for his presence as a guest, I'm OK with that. If a authorized user was turned away because of his presence, I'd have a problem with that.

Sponsoring civilian guests to military campgrounds 2 years 7 months ago #14095

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Shouldn't be a problem - respond "I didn't serve. I'm visiting with a friend" end of discussion
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Sponsoring civilian guests to military campgrounds 2 years 7 months ago #14097

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BA24 & Kemper: appreciate your advice here! As I'd said I was thinking along the same lines, but I'd be concerned that someone might, for various reasons, make a big fuss: like do something that might embarrass a Base CC who was to allow "sponsored civilians" to camp at an otherwise "underutilized" campground. THANKS!!!
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I sponsor a group every Nov and they are all civilians except 1. People ask and they say they are with me, they guy with the US and Marine Corp flag flying. Then it's just camping chit chat. No problems.
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Sponsoring civilian guests to military campgrounds 2 years 6 months ago #14114

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Once the "visiting camper" was entrenched in a campsite who would check to see if there were any such campers in the CG if an eligible camper were to wander in off the road and be turned away because the CG is now All Full? The "visitor" is there for the duration and no one is going to go to his/her site and ask them to now leave because there is a legitimate user waiting at the gate for a site.

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We have sponsored dear friends at military FamCamps and neither one of them served and the question about their military careers never came up. We have been staying at FamCamps for 15 years and seldom has anyone asked my husband about his military career. Yes there are discussions about military careers and they are interesting and some not so interesting so you choose to join in or politely excuse yourself. If the FamCamp allows you to sponsor someone then it should not be an issue. Bring your friend with you and have a great time. A little political humor here: let us all remember Donald Trump never served in the military and ask yourself would you sponsor him?

Sponsoring civilian guests to military campgrounds 2 years 6 months ago #14125

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dont limit lack of military to trump, none of the other idiots have served as much as a boy scout and they are our 5th line of defense I believe :)

I have sponsored a friend to a mil hotel at a campground. No questions were asked and it helped fill the rooms up. He was pleasantly surprised at how nice the campground as well as the hotel was. As noted if they will let you sponsor dont worry about it. People dont need to know just drive on with the non military friend. How many take family members who are not eligible into the PX or commissary? Basically same issue generally no one asks.

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This all depends on "sponsored guests" attitude and actions IMO...

1-I've had dependant wives come to my campsite and get verbally stupid at me for telling their kids to go to the park and play after they've awoken me from afternoon naps with their disruptive screaming and yelling or "playing" as nurturing types explain...did they kick out these overly emotional over reacting sponsored dependant wives for breaking the rules of aggressive behavior??? Of course not...i was seen as the bad guy for confronting obnoxious kids not following the rules...

2-GF of a 100% VA guy who wasn't present, but let some GF & her kids live in a RV onbase while he was away some where else violate quite time rules for the silly reasoning "I don't want to be cold driving my diesel truck to work @ 6am in Tampa Florida 1st week of November so I'm gonna wake up the campground by letting a rattle box diesel truck warm up so as the heater blows warm on my legs on my way to work"
Worthless campground host drove past it so I went over asked her why she's being discourteous & breaking the quite time rule??
She goes to not just camp office later but onbase police playing victimized female saying I threatened her??? Camp office said I was being "confrontational" and I should just whine about others to them behind others back or be like a girl, passive aggressive like she was to me LOL....

3-some Vietnam 100%er had a mid 40s man-child (clearly doesn't know wrong from right) whom the 100%er sponsors into tent camping as he doesn't like his manchild sponsored kid staying in his RV due to his sponsored man-child physically fighting with the manchilds white trash derilict non child support paying live in girlfriend?
So the sponsored man-child & girlfriend becomes a nuisance to tent campers, thinks since inefficient mwr campground staff has pity for this dysfunctional family that they allow him to exceed camping limits so he suddenly thinks he has merits of decorated combat disabled veterans...why wouldn't he think this, campground staff treats his loser self as a depedant whom they treat better than decorated combat veterans???

Needless to say, I don't have desire to see unacommpied sponcorsed guests onbase period...you wanna sponsor guests keep them in an arms reach so they aren't a nuisance to base/service members/veterans IMO...

P.S. Macdill CID (criminal investigations division) officer incharge agreed with me about #3 hopefully there will be no more unaccompanied sponsored guests at macdill famcamp, BX or commissary anymore...
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