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Jacksonville area campgrounds
14 years 3 months ago #7538
by rwbwrs
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As a retired DOD employee NOT from the Jacksonville area I do NOT know why all retirees and not allowed to stay. This also applies to Admiral Baker CG in San Diego. If anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate your comments.
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14 years 3 months ago #7539
by carrollg
Replied by carrollg on topic Re:Jacksonville area campgrounds
A neighbor camper engaged me in a long conversation about DoD employee's in his mind encroaching on a limited resource he felt was originally implemented for members of the armed forces (Geneva Convention types) who "deployed" unaccompanied on remote and long tour assignments.
Recent times have more civilian's deploying to combat zones so I presume they've expanded the benefit to all categories of civilian retiree's whether they go on unaccompanied TDY to combat zones or not. The armed forces, UCMJ, etc. thing is a thing of the past.
Recent times have more civilian's deploying to combat zones so I presume they've expanded the benefit to all categories of civilian retiree's whether they go on unaccompanied TDY to combat zones or not. The armed forces, UCMJ, etc. thing is a thing of the past.
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14 years 3 months ago #7541
by oldchief46
Rick Stone, YNC, USN(RET)
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Replied by oldchief46 on topic Re:Jacksonville area campgrounds
It is up to the local base commander who uses HIS campground. Some allow DOD civilian employees and some don't. In 2007 NAS Key West got a CO that did not want civilians taking up space in the campgrounds so he dropped them from the list of allowed personnel. The next CO didn't have the same opinion so DOD civilians were allowed back in.
Don't want to get into a argument over who is deserving and who is not so I'll keep my opinion to myself and just leave it up to the only person who really has the power, the base commanders.
Don't want to get into a argument over who is deserving and who is not so I'll keep my opinion to myself and just leave it up to the only person who really has the power, the base commanders.
Rick Stone, YNC, USN(RET)
2007 Monaco Cayman XL
2006 Chevy HHR
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14 years 3 months ago #7542
by cdrcos
Joe & Barb
2016 Winnebago Vista 31KE
Shoreview, Minnesota
Sun City Center, Florida
Replied by cdrcos on topic Re:Jacksonville area campgrounds
rwbwrs wrote:
Apparently, not everyone thinks that working as a civilian for the government is the same as serving for 20+ years in the military, enduring the overseas deployments, hazardous duty, low wages, etc.
I also don't believe that DOD retirees are entitled to VA benefits, burial in National cemeteries, GI Bill, etc.
Apples and oranges! (IMHO)
As a retired DOD employee NOT from the Jacksonville area I do NOT know why all retirees and not allowed to stay. This also applies to Admiral Baker CG in San Diego. If anyone has any thoughts I would appreciate your comments.
Thanks
Apparently, not everyone thinks that working as a civilian for the government is the same as serving for 20+ years in the military, enduring the overseas deployments, hazardous duty, low wages, etc.
I also don't believe that DOD retirees are entitled to VA benefits, burial in National cemeteries, GI Bill, etc.
Apples and oranges! (IMHO)
Joe & Barb
2016 Winnebago Vista 31KE
Shoreview, Minnesota
Sun City Center, Florida
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14 years 3 months ago #7573
by monkey44
Replied by monkey44 on topic Re:Jacksonville area campgrounds
We just look at this as a military operation, and a benefit for retired military ... that's what it says. When DOD employees begin making the same wages and take the same risks, then this benefit should/could be allowed. But, we need to understand too, many are already over-crowded at some times of the year, and adding another category of user would make it even worse ...
If it's a military campground by definition, that means military. AD first, then retired.
If it's a military campground by definition, that means military. AD first, then retired.
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14 years 2 weeks ago #7812
by SkyWatcher
Replied by SkyWatcher on topic Re:Jacksonville area campgrounds
I just can't believe this as well why the naval base there is allowing MWR to obtain such a policy, what about active soldiers and veterans alike who may can only stay a week or so be banned and not allowed to use their Govenment entitled priviliges, These Homsteaders need to realize that an RV is a recreational vehicle and not a new home to squat on military bases frauding the government.
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