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Electronic Communications
17 years 4 months ago #1506
by wb4zit
Mel Linville
US Army MSG (Ret)
2020 Ram 2500 Hemi and shopping for a cheap, used, small 5th wheel
Replied by wb4zit on topic Re: Electronic Communications
type of technology your describing: Satellite internet using Hughesnet (Direcway)
What equipment you need to operate it: Hughesnet DW7000 modem. I have an auto pointing Motosat Datastorm dish on the roof and I also carry a spare dish and tripod for when I am parked in the trees and the roof mount cannot see the bird. Linksys WRT-54 wireless router in the coach so the wife and I can sit under the awning and check our email or whatever.
Do you buy or lease or rent the equipment: Buy
Approximately what the equipment costs to buy or lease: Bought all equipment used and installed it myself, mostly off of eBay. Satellite modem = $150. Motosat Datastorm = $950. Tripod mount and extra dish = $250. Linksys WRT-54G = $39. Roll of 100' dual RG-6 coax for tripod use = $25
A new Motosat Datastorm is about $5K installed by an autorized dealer complete with modem.
A new tripod setup runs between $1200 and $1500 complete with modem depending on vendor.
Does the service require a "monthly fee" and if so, how much: Several speed plans available. Home Plan = $59 month. Pro Plan (The one I use) = $69 Pro Plus Plan = $79
Reason for satellite: I have been out of cell tower range out west many times but I rarely have been where I could not eventually find a hole in the trees to see the satellite.
What equipment you need to operate it: Hughesnet DW7000 modem. I have an auto pointing Motosat Datastorm dish on the roof and I also carry a spare dish and tripod for when I am parked in the trees and the roof mount cannot see the bird. Linksys WRT-54 wireless router in the coach so the wife and I can sit under the awning and check our email or whatever.
Do you buy or lease or rent the equipment: Buy
Approximately what the equipment costs to buy or lease: Bought all equipment used and installed it myself, mostly off of eBay. Satellite modem = $150. Motosat Datastorm = $950. Tripod mount and extra dish = $250. Linksys WRT-54G = $39. Roll of 100' dual RG-6 coax for tripod use = $25
A new Motosat Datastorm is about $5K installed by an autorized dealer complete with modem.
A new tripod setup runs between $1200 and $1500 complete with modem depending on vendor.
Does the service require a "monthly fee" and if so, how much: Several speed plans available. Home Plan = $59 month. Pro Plan (The one I use) = $69 Pro Plus Plan = $79
Reason for satellite: I have been out of cell tower range out west many times but I rarely have been where I could not eventually find a hole in the trees to see the satellite.
Mel Linville
US Army MSG (Ret)
2020 Ram 2500 Hemi and shopping for a cheap, used, small 5th wheel
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17 years 4 months ago #1513
by cheldreth
Curt Heldreth
Retired US Army
Retired HS Teacher
Copilot: Mary, NC Guardian ad Litem
Activities Director: Roscoe the Beagle
2006 Bounder 35E
2010 Malibu LS
Replied by cheldreth on topic Re: Electronic Communications
We are actually living in our driveway waiting for the house to see before we go full-time. I am in a real quandary about which way to go for Internet access on the road.
My options appear to be Hughes Net either on dish on a tripod ($1400) or an automated dish permanently mounted on the roof of the Bounder ($5000).
Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
Curt
My options appear to be Hughes Net either on dish on a tripod ($1400) or an automated dish permanently mounted on the roof of the Bounder ($5000).
Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
Curt
Curt Heldreth
Retired US Army
Retired HS Teacher
Copilot: Mary, NC Guardian ad Litem
Activities Director: Roscoe the Beagle
2006 Bounder 35E
2010 Malibu LS
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17 years 4 months ago #1514
by wb4zit
Mel Linville
US Army MSG (Ret)
2020 Ram 2500 Hemi and shopping for a cheap, used, small 5th wheel
Replied by wb4zit on topic Re: Electronic Communications
Curt,
Not knowing your tolerance for pain when dealing with electronic gadgets, I am reluctant to give advice about which way to go. I will tell you that pointing a tripod mounted Hughesnet or Starband dish can be frustrating until you develop some expertise at hitting the satellite and passing cross pol. Some folks get it right away, some fight with it every time they move. Having both, I will tell you that the roof mounted Datastorm is great if you are parked where there are no trees between your dish and the satellite. Push one button or click on one icon and about 5 to 10 minutes later you are on the net. However, I will always carry my tripod because trees happen.....more frequently than you think. A lot of Datastorm folks check their compass before they pick a camping space in order to get one with a clear shot. I prefer to park in a nice spot and, if I have to, use the tripod if the Datastorm cannot find the satellite.
If you decide you want the Datastorm unit you may want to go to www.datastormusers.com and watch the Marketplace - For Sale and Wanted forum. Frequently dealers with have used and refurbed Datastorm systems they have taken in on trade and you might save yourself $1500 to $2000. If you read some of the other forums on that board you will also be able to tell very quickly which installers out there you would like to do the installation (and tech support).
The simplest and cheapest solution is, of course, the cellular broadband cards. And they work great if you are in a populated area with the high speed data network coverage. If you get out in the boonies where you only have a basic cell phone tower you will be reduced to speeds lower than a dial up modem. And if you go out west you will find large areas that do not have any cell phone service so you will not have any access at all. I went with the satellite service because I wanted service from Baja to southern Canada and if I can find a hole in the trees I can get service with satellite. If you are in an area with no cell phone service there is nothing you can do except hope the campground has wi-fi.
Now, the really good thing about the cellular cards is that you can use them while going down the road. You definitely cannot do that with the satellite so if being on the internet while moving is important to you then the cell card is the way to go.
Not knowing your tolerance for pain when dealing with electronic gadgets, I am reluctant to give advice about which way to go. I will tell you that pointing a tripod mounted Hughesnet or Starband dish can be frustrating until you develop some expertise at hitting the satellite and passing cross pol. Some folks get it right away, some fight with it every time they move. Having both, I will tell you that the roof mounted Datastorm is great if you are parked where there are no trees between your dish and the satellite. Push one button or click on one icon and about 5 to 10 minutes later you are on the net. However, I will always carry my tripod because trees happen.....more frequently than you think. A lot of Datastorm folks check their compass before they pick a camping space in order to get one with a clear shot. I prefer to park in a nice spot and, if I have to, use the tripod if the Datastorm cannot find the satellite.
If you decide you want the Datastorm unit you may want to go to www.datastormusers.com and watch the Marketplace - For Sale and Wanted forum. Frequently dealers with have used and refurbed Datastorm systems they have taken in on trade and you might save yourself $1500 to $2000. If you read some of the other forums on that board you will also be able to tell very quickly which installers out there you would like to do the installation (and tech support).
The simplest and cheapest solution is, of course, the cellular broadband cards. And they work great if you are in a populated area with the high speed data network coverage. If you get out in the boonies where you only have a basic cell phone tower you will be reduced to speeds lower than a dial up modem. And if you go out west you will find large areas that do not have any cell phone service so you will not have any access at all. I went with the satellite service because I wanted service from Baja to southern Canada and if I can find a hole in the trees I can get service with satellite. If you are in an area with no cell phone service there is nothing you can do except hope the campground has wi-fi.
Now, the really good thing about the cellular cards is that you can use them while going down the road. You definitely cannot do that with the satellite so if being on the internet while moving is important to you then the cell card is the way to go.
Mel Linville
US Army MSG (Ret)
2020 Ram 2500 Hemi and shopping for a cheap, used, small 5th wheel
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17 years 4 months ago #1516
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Replied by a Guest on topic Re: Electronic Communications
Curt
The Verizon air card or pc card is faster than dial up, not slower as Mel stated, however I had a T-Mobil card that was slower. Also you can speed up the rate by using a slower or faster "Venturi" rate. What this does is increasses or decreasses the quality of pictures, example, the faster the transfer rate the less the quality of the pictures are. If I am surfing I set it about medium and unless I am really inspecting the quality of photos the transfer rate is just fine, (for me).
Yeah, I would like a faster internet, but I just can not go the big expense of Directway or what ever it is called today.
Most military bases I have been to have broadband available in the local area (the base is not the provider, but I do get it there), also most average size cities now have broadband and more are coming on line with it all the time. Verizon does provide a great value and I understand that it is getting better all the time. We are out west about 6 months of the year or better and have NEVER been without service. That is from San Diego to the Canadian boarder (my sister is a customs agent at the boarder in Lynden, WA.
Hope this helps in your www decisions.
The Verizon air card or pc card is faster than dial up, not slower as Mel stated, however I had a T-Mobil card that was slower. Also you can speed up the rate by using a slower or faster "Venturi" rate. What this does is increasses or decreasses the quality of pictures, example, the faster the transfer rate the less the quality of the pictures are. If I am surfing I set it about medium and unless I am really inspecting the quality of photos the transfer rate is just fine, (for me).
Yeah, I would like a faster internet, but I just can not go the big expense of Directway or what ever it is called today.
Most military bases I have been to have broadband available in the local area (the base is not the provider, but I do get it there), also most average size cities now have broadband and more are coming on line with it all the time. Verizon does provide a great value and I understand that it is getting better all the time. We are out west about 6 months of the year or better and have NEVER been without service. That is from San Diego to the Canadian boarder (my sister is a customs agent at the boarder in Lynden, WA.
Hope this helps in your www decisions.
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