Careful at Fourth Cliff

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12 years 4 months ago - 12 years 4 months ago #10091 by monkey44
Just left Fourth Cliff and returned to Hanscom AFB ...

Fourth Cliff has the absolutely worst trained staff in the nation. We stopped in and wanted to do overnight. Staff said, "We can't make reservations on the weekend" - We don't want a reservation, we want one of the open sites, now - we're standing at the desk. She say, "I don't know how to give a reservation" WE don't need a reservation, we're here now.

She says, You can't have a site without a reservatation. Besides, we're full. WE looked outside again. Eleven sites here, six sites with rigs, five sites open.

She says - I don't know how to do this, so we're full - that's what we say on the weekends.

Now, muy stupid self says to me, Why did you go back here - because this is the third time it's happened here on the weekend ... once before, the staff said, again with half sites open - We're told to tell everyone we're full if anyone wants to come on the weekend - Why - because we don't know how to do reservations. Only the manager does and he never here on the weekends.

Last time, I sent ICE, mgr called me and "sorry and said he would fix it". Last year, and it's still not fixed. Terrible staff here, and make sure you bring your own restroom and shower, because this shower I wouldn't wash my dog in it. This time, will write to Hanscom Command - this manager is not what we expect in a MCG.
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12 years 4 months ago #10096 by Wadcutter
Don't forget to add your comments to the review section for Fourth Cliff. When we travel we read the camp's reviews but don't do a search of the forums. Maybe someone in charge of Fourth Cliff will also read the review.
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12 years 4 months ago #10101 by CapeCodBob
It sounds like they are NOT trained at all and the host does not want the weekend help messin' with the computer.
We were there last fall and kept reuping a few days at a time and the host wasvery gracious and even let us use the office phone several times to get oyr phone service back on. Actually she did some of the calling for us.
We are at Hanscom now.
If the weekend help new the site was not going to be occupied why not let you squat and settle up when the host returned or leave a check as is done with most mil. cg's when no host present

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12 years 4 months ago #10109 by monkey44
QUOTE: If the weekend help new the site was not going to be occupied why not let you squat and settle up when the host returned or leave a check as is done with most mil. cg's when no host present ...

Because, as I stated above, she said "We've been told to tell everyone the sites are full on the weekends."

That's so they don't have to log it in - so, even with five sites open, she said, "We're full." Couldn't deal with that stupidity, so we left and went to Hanscom for a few days. IT's not the first time this happened here, but will probably be the last time for us.

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12 years 4 months ago #10130 by seadog
Replied by seadog on topic Re: Careful at Fourth Cliff
Hi,
We have a res here in August and have been assigned a site on the cliff near the bunker. Have read the ground isn't stable and it may not be safe!
Can anyone advise if there's a problem with these sites?
Thanks,
Jim

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12 years 4 months ago #10133 by monkey44
Beautiful water views from this MCG ... No doubt about that.

Lots of cracking and shifting on the banks below the top sites, and cracking of the concrete pads too.

It's probably long-term Mother Earth doing her thing, and unlikely your unit will tumble down the hill into the bay.

But, this MCG is poorly maintained, and poorly run, and poorly managed.

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