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I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians
16 years 11 months ago #2351
by FastEagle
2003 Everest 363K 38' 14K
2004 Dodge 3500 STL-DRW-QC-LB-2WD-4.10-AUTO-CTD
USN Retired - PDRL
DOD Retired - Aircraft Mechanic
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I'm using a U.S. Army document because it is the most up to date one I could find. DoD and retired DoD personnel should read all of chapter 7. In reply # 16 Larry has also referenced sections of this regulation and can be seen by clicking on the word "article". Something to remember is that Base Commander B is not bound by the decisions of Base Commander "A".
www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r215_1.pdf
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www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r215_1.pdf
FastEagle
2003 Everest 363K 38' 14K
2004 Dodge 3500 STL-DRW-QC-LB-2WD-4.10-AUTO-CTD
USN Retired - PDRL
DOD Retired - Aircraft Mechanic
Part Timers with sticks in SC
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16 years 11 months ago #2354
by bill6750
Bill & Jean
Bill Retired US Army,
Viet Nam Vet, 24th Evac. Hosp.
Jean Retired from DOA
2014 Tiffin Phaeton, 40'
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 in Toe
Replied by bill6750 on topic Re: I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians
Fellow Campers,
The base commander here at Sigsbee and Trumbo campgrounds are allowing Retired DOD civilians to camp here this year. The issue has not been resolved whether they are allowed here or not. So they are allowing it until it is. There are at least 10 such campers here now. As Fasteagle said it is up to the base commander. By the way I am here at Sigsbee now and have talked with some of the DOD's.
The base commander here at Sigsbee and Trumbo campgrounds are allowing Retired DOD civilians to camp here this year. The issue has not been resolved whether they are allowed here or not. So they are allowing it until it is. There are at least 10 such campers here now. As Fasteagle said it is up to the base commander. By the way I am here at Sigsbee now and have talked with some of the DOD's.
Bill & Jean
Bill Retired US Army,
Viet Nam Vet, 24th Evac. Hosp.
Jean Retired from DOA
2014 Tiffin Phaeton, 40'
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 in Toe
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16 years 11 months ago #2360
by oldchief46
Bill,
Wonder if there has been a change of command at the base since last year? The Navy usually moves their senior officer's around every 12 to 24 months. When we were there last February they were very adamant that the CO had cut off DOD Civilians. It will be interesting how this plays out, especially after the first of the year when the place normally starts to fill up. Keep us posted.
Rick Stone, YNC, USN(RET)
2007 Monaco Cayman XL
2006 Chevy HHR
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Replied by oldchief46 on topic Re: I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians
The base commander here at Sigsbee and Trumbo campgrounds are allowing Retired DOD civilians to camp here this year. The issue has not been resolved whether they are allowed here or not.
Bill,
Wonder if there has been a change of command at the base since last year? The Navy usually moves their senior officer's around every 12 to 24 months. When we were there last February they were very adamant that the CO had cut off DOD Civilians. It will be interesting how this plays out, especially after the first of the year when the place normally starts to fill up. Keep us posted.
Rick Stone, YNC, USN(RET)
2007 Monaco Cayman XL
2006 Chevy HHR
oldchief1.blogspot.com
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16 years 11 months ago #2478
by normalee35757
Replied by normalee35757 on topic Re: I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians
Hey everyone - I am recently retired DoD (Army) civilian and was thrilled to find this website until I read all of the hatred, etc. I truly thought that I've earned what few benefits I have been advised of. I also thought for all of the years I worked, it was to make things safer for our military - all branches. (I worked in Missile and Helicopter Research and Development.) I (and my co-workers) put in many hours of unpaid overtime to correct issues that arose from the weapons systems and to support those deployed personnel. I am very hurt and disappointed to find out that the troops don't feel that way. (Our ability to use facilities are on a space available, bit more cost, etc., but that seems to be overlooked.)
When I logged on this morning, it was to donate to the website, buy the software, etc., to help support what I thought was a great, family type atmosphere. I believe I will wait now. Never have been one to go where I wasn't wanted.
When I logged on this morning, it was to donate to the website, buy the software, etc., to help support what I thought was a great, family type atmosphere. I believe I will wait now. Never have been one to go where I wasn't wanted.
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16 years 11 months ago #2481
by monkey44
Replied by monkey44 on topic Re: I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians
Don't let one or two negative posts send you away -- we all earned cerain benefits for what we each contributed ... and each one gets in the proper line for those benefits -- and every one earned what they get regardless, and knew what those were when he/she signed up ...and I, for one, assume each will get in that proper line and get whatever they have earned ... personally at least I also have no problem camping next door to DOD.
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16 years 11 months ago #2487
by cheldreth
Curt Heldreth
Retired US Army
Retired HS Teacher
Copilot: Mary, NC Guardian ad Litem
Activities Director: Roscoe the Beagle
2006 Bounder 35E
2010 Malibu LS
Replied by cheldreth on topic Re: I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians
I agree completely with Monkey. We have all taken different paths to get to where we are today.
Mary and I are retired Army and full-time RVers and we believe that decisions on who is entitle to what are made several pay grades above ours by those who know best who deserves what. As long as everyone is treated fairly and with respect then we are satisfied.
I think that we all get frustrated with homesteaders and the unfair way that some MCGs seem to enforce the rules and regulations and unfortunately sometimes let those frustrations get in the way of our judgment on other issues.
So many DOD civilians now do jobs that a few years ago were being done by uniformed personnel. In fact many DOD positions are held by former service members who did not stay in service long enough to retire but have earned their retirement in civil service. One of the things that 9-11 pointed out very clearly is that terrorism does not discriminate between uniformed and civilian employees. Many fine DOD civilians lost their lives in the Pentagon that day because of their service to our Nation.
Service to the Nation takes so many different forms. Everyone's service is honorable and should be rewarded unless there is evidence to the contrary.
Let he who has the most honorable service cast the first stone . . .
Mary and I are retired Army and full-time RVers and we believe that decisions on who is entitle to what are made several pay grades above ours by those who know best who deserves what. As long as everyone is treated fairly and with respect then we are satisfied.
I think that we all get frustrated with homesteaders and the unfair way that some MCGs seem to enforce the rules and regulations and unfortunately sometimes let those frustrations get in the way of our judgment on other issues.
So many DOD civilians now do jobs that a few years ago were being done by uniformed personnel. In fact many DOD positions are held by former service members who did not stay in service long enough to retire but have earned their retirement in civil service. One of the things that 9-11 pointed out very clearly is that terrorism does not discriminate between uniformed and civilian employees. Many fine DOD civilians lost their lives in the Pentagon that day because of their service to our Nation.
Service to the Nation takes so many different forms. Everyone's service is honorable and should be rewarded unless there is evidence to the contrary.
Let he who has the most honorable service cast the first stone . . .
Curt Heldreth
Retired US Army
Retired HS Teacher
Copilot: Mary, NC Guardian ad Litem
Activities Director: Roscoe the Beagle
2006 Bounder 35E
2010 Malibu LS
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