I.D. cards for retired D.O.D. civilians

Thanks Monkey and Cheldreth.
I agree with both of you and feel much better now. I was really surprised to read the negative posts.
I also don't think that some people do not realize that DoD retirees get Retired Civilian ID cards. These entitle us to MWR activities on posts per the MCG's enforcement of the regs. These MWR privileges are also not at the same rates, or come ahead of any military retiree. This, in my opinion, is as it should be. As you stated, how the MCG enforces the rules and regulations is something no one has control over.
These do not give us things like PX privileges, and shouldn't.
My step-father is retired military and he, rightfully, has many more benefits than I do. We both think it is neat though, that if space is available in a particular campground, that we can meet up and camp together. Every now and then we even get adjacent lots.

I also don't think that some people do not realize that DoD retirees get Retired Civilian ID cards.

Can you shed some light on the original subject of this discussion?

• What ID card (form #) did you receive and where did you receive it from?
  
• What is required for proof of retired DoD civilian status?

I'm asked many times these same questions. My research shows that there IS NOT a standard ID card for retired DoD civilians. The OPM has confirmed that no card exists. Of course, this causes problems for retired DoD to gain access to the military campgrounds that they may be authorized to use (local commanders determination).

The USAF does have a ID card for DoD civlians who retired from a USAF job (AF Form 354 - Civilian Identification Card).
While the Army doesn't have an ID card for retired DoD civilians, I have been told that a retired DoD civilian "may" be able to obtain a DA Form 1602 - Civilian Identification Card.
I'm not aware of any ID cards from all other services and DoD.

Thanks for any help.

"While the Army doesn't have an ID card for retired DoD civilians, I have been told that a retired DoD civilian "may" be able to obtain a DA Form 1602 - Civilian Identification Card."

I am retired Army civilian - I did receive the DA Form 1602 with RET DA CIV annotated in the status. It was an automatic event as part of the outprocessing procedure for retirees. You turned in your CAC and received the Form 1602. As a matter of fact, you couldn't complete clearing post until you had your "retired" ID. While I thought it was standard practice, this could be a local commander initiative.

When I have made reservations at campgrounds, I have been asked for status, last 4 of SSN, and name generally.

Upon entering most installations, after I have identified my destination; my driver's license and/or this ID is requested.

Afraid this isn't much help since you already knew this information. I have no idea what other DoD retirees receive as ID. I am suspecting nothing from your post. Possibly their last SF50 would serve as proof of retiree status?

Does that help?

Normalee, Thanks - that does help. I'm glad your Army post had their act together. I've heard other retired Army civilians being turned down the DA Form 1602 since the regs don't specifically state it's for "Retired".

As a recent DoD civilian employee I was very surprised a CAC card will be available to me when I retire in 2016 after 5 years with my agency. I served in Kabul in 2013 and was in the USMC from 1968-70. A very large number of DoD civilian employees are veterans.

Although I never asked, it seems to me the CAC is issued because we are part of the DoD family, and we should have a low priority for the use of facilties. The active duty folks I work with are THE BEST!

One very good point is that civilan managers do not understand or do not care to provide input during the annual evaluation period of our uniformed coworkers. That is shameful.

I wanted to join the ruckus from 10 yrs. ago. Now that I am looking at the back side of my Federal Career both NAF and APF and an MWR 0188 Rec. Specialist. With no Disrespect to anyone, especially those in Uniformed Services. Instead of making a statement pro or con, I'll let all you judge, both Military retirees and Federal civilian retirees.

Out of college (1986) with a brand new Rec. degree in hand, bright eyed, naïve, thrilled and honored to serve those in the military and ready to fight every battle to improve their "QOL" Quality of Life, I went overseas on "orders and travel agreement".

Apr. 1986 to Jan 1987 Camp Hovey 8th Army Korea. UA 5 (NAF) MWR Community REC. Programmer 10 miles from the DMZ
Promoted
Jan. 1987 to July 1988 UA 7 (NAF) Grewewski Barracks, Karlsruhe W. Germany. Cold War. Wall was coming down I got out went to private sector.
Jan 1999 to June 2000 NF 3 WMR Community REC. Dir. KFOR Camp Able Sentry Macedonia The Balkans.
Promoted
Oct 2000 to Dec. 2003 NF 4 Afloat MWR Dir. US Navy USS John C. Stennis CVN 74 & USS BonHomme Richard LHD 6
Deployed "Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom"
Dec. 2003 to June 2008 GS 5 MWR Outdoor Rec./ITT MGR. 939th ARW Portland OR. BRAC
May 2016 to Nov 2016 GS 9 MWR Special Events Coordinator, Camp Arifjan, Kuwait.
Next ????
Status married Oct 2000.

Am I worthy of the benefit for my service? Sacrificing time away from my family to serve. Living and working on a Aircraft Carrier and Amphib for 3 years, supporting morale and quality of life programs side by side with the troops around the world, hearing shots fired in anger. Deployed near the DMZ. etc...

In Macedonia, I wore the uniform (BDU's) supported ops in Kosovo, Camp BondSteel and Monteith, the only place in my life that the hair stood up on the back of my neck. I have more forward deployed time than some in uniform. Does that count, I swore allegiance to protect and defend the Constitution, although most don't understand what a privilege and Honor that is today.

Selfless service isn't just demonstrated by those that are in Military uniform, how many civilians have made the ultimate sacrifice and would do it again. I have nothing but the best memories of the programs and facilities I managed. Being a part of each command and community, the pride and knowledge that I was doing something bigger.

It all comes down to one thing. The people you meet along the way. You throw away the Knuckleheads and keep the rest. Bad managers, bad CO's, Bad NCO"s. The ones that just never "Got It" or never will. It's all about the people and keeping a positive attitude. Being able to always find a way to say "Yes"! not "No"! I have delivered programs and activities that have not been forgotten. Proof? You want Proof?

In June of 2015 I was working for the Navy in SD, I was in the Starbucks on the "Dry Side" 32nd st. with a colleague. A SR. Chief came up to me and said "Hi Gregg, You were the Fun Boss on the John C. Stennis. I will never forget what you did for us. You were the best I ever seen up to this day!
It wasn't so much that according to her I was the best she ever seen, but that she remembered my name! after 15 years, she remembered my name. When you work in Morale and Services, you wonder if you really make a difference in the lives of those you are there to serve? Well, that questioned was answered for me and validated my career.

With or with out the DOD retiree card no one can take that away from me.

Thank you to all Federal Employees, your service matters!
R.

Gregg K.