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17 years 6 months ago #731
by monkey44
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Right -- and now everyone has ID check in progress at all times -- so that is no issue either ...
Here in Mass we can't even get plates for our vehicles unless we have an insurance stamp on the registration card ...
Here in Mass we can't even get plates for our vehicles unless we have an insurance stamp on the registration card ...
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17 years 2 months ago #1574
by fiatspider79
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I received this from the AF Retiree News Service:
Release No. 08-08-07
Aug. 21, 2007
Air Force discontinues use of base decals
by Senior Master Sgt. Matt Proietti
Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs
WASHINGTON (AFRNS) -- Air Force officials are working with the other services to allow its people to enter military installations without requiring them to display a base decal on their vehicles.
Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley recently ended use of the sticker, officially called a DD Form 2220, on Air Force installations because of cost, a lack of utility and long-term threats facing bases.
The decal was developed in the 1970s as part of a vehicle registration and traffic management system, not to bolster security, said Col. William Sellers, the Air Force chief of force protection and operations for security forces.
"There was a clear and definable need for this system (then)," he said. "A nationwide vehicle registration database did not exist, insurance was not required by all states, and a process was needed to expedite vehicle entry onto installations."
Air Force officials began questioning the value of the vehicle registration system in 2005 because of security concerns.
Many people incorrectly viewed the decal as being designed to bolster security, Colonel Sellers said. In actuality, the decal lessens it by identifying vehicles of Airmen and civilian workers as potential terror targets and may lure gate guards into complacency.
Laws now require motorists to have a legal driver's license issued by a state, proof of vehicle ownership/state registration, evidence of insurance, and safety and emissions inspections. A national vehicle registration system is used by all civilian and military police departments in the country.
"We've been putting our own personnel through a process that simply duplicates state and federal mandatory requirements," Colonel Sellers said.
If a vehicle from a Navy base is parked illegally on an Army installation, the military police cannot use its DD Form 2220 to track the owner because the two services do not share vehicle databases. Instead, the police will use the license plate number or vehicle identification number to obtain information via two national systems that provide comprehensive driver, vehicle data and access to law enforcement agency information, the colonel said.
Security forces and gate guards now check the ID of each person entering an Air Force installation, Colonel Sellers said. This provides better security than a base decal ever did because:
-- The vehicle displaying it could have been sold with the decal on it.
-- Its owner may have left the service and not removed the decal.
-- The number on the decal could be duplicated.
-- The decal could be counterfeited.
-- The decal may have been removed from another vehicle.
-- The vehicle may have been stolen.
Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo., has not seen an increase in gate traffic since it stopped issuing base decals six months ago, said Master Sgt. James Osban, the NCO in charge of the 509th Security Forces Squadron Police Services.
"We're identifying the people coming on base and not the vehicle," he said. "We've done a 100 percent ID check for years."
Air Force officials have asked the other services to allow entry of its people to their installations by honoring their common access cards, appropriate identification or even by issuing them a DD Form 2220, which would enter them in another branch's database. In many cases, Air Force people visit other installations to shop.
"That translates into dollars for their Soldiers, Sailors and Marines," Colonel Sellers said. "Commanders want Air Force personnel on their bases."
Some within the Defense Department feel the registration system still has utility, regardless of inherent weaknesses, Colonel Sellers said. He believes installation commanders who worry about the time it takes to access bases "need to face today's security challenges."
Using the old system ?puts the military in serious danger of losing credibility with its own personnel and the general public," Colonel Sellers said. "The threat is here, it's real and we must continuously improve our processes and procedures."
The military branches have spent millions on new entry points, but have failed to review the process of how they allow entry onto an installation, Colonel Sellers said.
"The strength of a redesigned gate is defeated if the process to enter is flawed," he said. "Our first line of defense becomes irrelevant. The priority is not expediting entry, but knowing who is entering." (Courtesy of Air Force Print News)
Release No. 08-08-07
Aug. 21, 2007
Air Force discontinues use of base decals
by Senior Master Sgt. Matt Proietti
Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs
WASHINGTON (AFRNS) -- Air Force officials are working with the other services to allow its people to enter military installations without requiring them to display a base decal on their vehicles.
Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley recently ended use of the sticker, officially called a DD Form 2220, on Air Force installations because of cost, a lack of utility and long-term threats facing bases.
The decal was developed in the 1970s as part of a vehicle registration and traffic management system, not to bolster security, said Col. William Sellers, the Air Force chief of force protection and operations for security forces.
"There was a clear and definable need for this system (then)," he said. "A nationwide vehicle registration database did not exist, insurance was not required by all states, and a process was needed to expedite vehicle entry onto installations."
Air Force officials began questioning the value of the vehicle registration system in 2005 because of security concerns.
Many people incorrectly viewed the decal as being designed to bolster security, Colonel Sellers said. In actuality, the decal lessens it by identifying vehicles of Airmen and civilian workers as potential terror targets and may lure gate guards into complacency.
Laws now require motorists to have a legal driver's license issued by a state, proof of vehicle ownership/state registration, evidence of insurance, and safety and emissions inspections. A national vehicle registration system is used by all civilian and military police departments in the country.
"We've been putting our own personnel through a process that simply duplicates state and federal mandatory requirements," Colonel Sellers said.
If a vehicle from a Navy base is parked illegally on an Army installation, the military police cannot use its DD Form 2220 to track the owner because the two services do not share vehicle databases. Instead, the police will use the license plate number or vehicle identification number to obtain information via two national systems that provide comprehensive driver, vehicle data and access to law enforcement agency information, the colonel said.
Security forces and gate guards now check the ID of each person entering an Air Force installation, Colonel Sellers said. This provides better security than a base decal ever did because:
-- The vehicle displaying it could have been sold with the decal on it.
-- Its owner may have left the service and not removed the decal.
-- The number on the decal could be duplicated.
-- The decal could be counterfeited.
-- The decal may have been removed from another vehicle.
-- The vehicle may have been stolen.
Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo., has not seen an increase in gate traffic since it stopped issuing base decals six months ago, said Master Sgt. James Osban, the NCO in charge of the 509th Security Forces Squadron Police Services.
"We're identifying the people coming on base and not the vehicle," he said. "We've done a 100 percent ID check for years."
Air Force officials have asked the other services to allow entry of its people to their installations by honoring their common access cards, appropriate identification or even by issuing them a DD Form 2220, which would enter them in another branch's database. In many cases, Air Force people visit other installations to shop.
"That translates into dollars for their Soldiers, Sailors and Marines," Colonel Sellers said. "Commanders want Air Force personnel on their bases."
Some within the Defense Department feel the registration system still has utility, regardless of inherent weaknesses, Colonel Sellers said. He believes installation commanders who worry about the time it takes to access bases "need to face today's security challenges."
Using the old system ?puts the military in serious danger of losing credibility with its own personnel and the general public," Colonel Sellers said. "The threat is here, it's real and we must continuously improve our processes and procedures."
The military branches have spent millions on new entry points, but have failed to review the process of how they allow entry onto an installation, Colonel Sellers said.
"The strength of a redesigned gate is defeated if the process to enter is flawed," he said. "Our first line of defense becomes irrelevant. The priority is not expediting entry, but knowing who is entering." (Courtesy of Air Force Print News)
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17 years 2 months ago #1576
by bblhed
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I will miss the stickers when they are phased out. I know they were a pain, but as a Submariner the stickers were special to me because even after I got out I wouldn't get a base sticker for my car unless it was a Sub base sticker. Kind of like having a little piece of home wherever you go I guess.
Plus there were the dolphin stickers you got to add over the top of your sticker after getting qualified subs (a one year process that was harder than college) that said you could park in those spots that were reserved for "qualified" personnel only. The only base I was ever on that had qualified spots was NAS Jacksonville, and they were marked AW/SW parking only, it took me 15 minutes of arguing and a Navy Chief and Marine E-7 vouching for me to convince the galley Master At Arms that while all submariners had to have Dolphins, they didn't just hand them to you when you got to the boat.
Plus there were the dolphin stickers you got to add over the top of your sticker after getting qualified subs (a one year process that was harder than college) that said you could park in those spots that were reserved for "qualified" personnel only. The only base I was ever on that had qualified spots was NAS Jacksonville, and they were marked AW/SW parking only, it took me 15 minutes of arguing and a Navy Chief and Marine E-7 vouching for me to convince the galley Master At Arms that while all submariners had to have Dolphins, they didn't just hand them to you when you got to the boat.
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17 years 2 months ago #1601
by rabeow
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The idea that the sticker is a means for the gate guard to ensure that the vehicle is authorized aboard the base is a correct one. Even though there is a national database for each service, they don't share info with each other. That concept has been proposed for years. While the Air Force may be doing away with the sticker, I can tell you the Marine Corps is not and Air Force personnel visiting a Marine base will be required to obtain a temp pass to board. There are plenty of servicemen and women out there that do not take proper care to license and insure their vehicles. Gate guards do not have the time to review all necessary paperwork of each vehicle coming throught the gate to see if it is registered to the driver, it is current and there is adequate insurance. That is not their job, hence the purpose of the sticker. So, good luck to the Air Force, but I think they are moving in the wrong direction on this one.
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17 years 2 months ago #1605
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"Battles are sometimes won by generals; wars are nearly always won by sergeants and privates."
-F.E. Adcock, British classical scholar
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We just had our post stickers renewed last week for the car, truck & motorhome at the Fort McCoy (Army). I was told when asked about the policy there. We were told that you will have a DOD sticker on your vehicle or go wait in line for a daily temp one.
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17 years 2 months ago #1607
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I wonder what's gonna happen when the Air Force types get tired of going through all of the hoops to get on Army, Navy and Marine Corps bases and start applying to those bases for stickers?
Seems to me that while the Air Force will be saving big bucks, the other services will start having to spend more to register all of the Air Force people who want the stickers on their cars.
Should be interesting.
Glenn
Seems to me that while the Air Force will be saving big bucks, the other services will start having to spend more to register all of the Air Force people who want the stickers on their cars.
Should be interesting.
Glenn
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