MWR regulations need to be changed.

Ahh, those volunteers get compensation?!? Must be nice!

I agree with your definitions, and all here meet the fulltimer definition. I also agree with people here that homesteading is a disgrace and abuse. Other than moving our cars, we can be underway in around 15 minutes.

All I want, for my wife and I, as well as all others (AD and retirees) is the ability to stay past the 60 day max stay as long as there is space available, for as long as there is space available. Once the CG is booked, people must move on to make room for the reservations IAW the rules.

So, would that be so hard?

You readily admit your family is there on a PCS. So what do people do when transferred from point A to point B? You find a place to live in your new community and get on with your life. You’re not trying to be a homesteader or snow bird. You’re a squatter on government property. Crying, moaning and groaning about your particular situation cannot justify the fact that you’re trying to live in a “Recreational Campground”. I’ll bet you have not asked the Base Commander to “Bend the Rules” for you. He can do that you know. Providing your situation warrants his consideration. Turn around some of that negative energy and find a better solution. Or play by the rules the RV Park has in place for all it’s other patrons. That’s what the great majority of us do.

FastEagle

My wife will be providing her CO the required request form to submit to the base CO for his consideration. I am NOT asking anyone to bend the rules for us or anyone else, but modify the rule for the benefit for all. The other AD here I have talked with are getting their requests ready for submission as well, and a few are on their extensions.

As far as the great majority of the rest of you, that constitutes over 80% retired according to the status poll on this forum. You mention MY negative energy, but seem blind to the same directed at myself and AD in general.

You got a lot of nerve calling me a squatter, and stating that I'm trying to "bend the rules". You sir, are a hipocrate! We have discovered this lifestyle just as so many others, but out of necessity rather than choice. We don't have the ability to travel the country all care free, we have responsitilities and obligations. Apparently you have forgotten what that is like, and spit on me for my commitment to mine. Good for you, just not for us, eh? You enjoy RV'ing, but being we are restricted to a certain area, we should live a "normal" life, get an apartment, and not be in your way.

I should shut up and stop crying, but it's ok for you retired folk to cry to the base CO because you can't get in on the 4th of July, and cause him to change to rules to prevent us from base hoping and following the 60 day rule locally. Hipocrate!

You choose to take what I have stated and look at it in a negative manner, instead of it's true purpose of trying to benefit ALL (i.e. you too). We have no problem with leaving after 60 days, we just would like to not have to, nore do we feel that anyone should, provided there is space available. (i.e. room at the inn, not full, empty sites, can I be any clearer?)

Currently there are 4 sites available to us within a resonable commute to work. Ocean Pines and Sea Mist are now considered one base, so no more bouncing between them. Fort Story is very small and booked/full. Little Creek does NOT take reservations. So when our 60 days are up, we can't go to Sea Mist, Fort Story is booked, and MAYBE we can get into Little Creek, and there are empty sites here with no reservations filling them, but GOD forbid we be able to stay. We would not be taking away anyone's ability to come into this CG, and would have no problem leaving if it were full. You maintain we need to follow the rules, and I agree 100%. But you didn't like the rules and had them changed, but I try to do the same, to accomadate all, and I'm a crying squatter. Hipocrate! (BTW, Squatting is the act of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use, we PAY, and have permission to use)

That is what is wrong with this country, it's upside down. Instead of the working class (and AD) getting what it deserves, the wealthy and poverty stricken get catered to, and the working class pays for it all. You collect Social Security and retirement, but I wont, but I'll sure as hell pay for yours! And you have the nerve to spit on me. You worked hard and paid into the system and deserve what you get, but what about us? We are working harder than you, pay more, suffer more, and in the end, where will our reward be? You don't even have the decency to pat us on the back and say thank you. >

You're talking to a 100% disabled vet here for over 44 years. So don't even mention hardship to me as reason to let you stay in a MCG spot for six months that I might like for a week. AND one more time, this is recreation for all military, retired and active. It is NOT housing.

And I earned (and everyone else here did too) every single dollar of my retirement and VA pension, and continute to pay for it every day of my life with my health, along with many of the others on this site and in the MCGs -- and don't talk to me either about paying my retirement -- that's not on your nickel, and if it was I'd give your portion back because with an attitude like yours I don't want it. You seem to forget we earned the right to travel this country, and some paid far more than others. And some abuse it too, far more than others.

And the right way to do what you want is change the rules if you can, but remember when you try that housing is a different component of the military, and recreation is as well -- and you're completely out of line complaining about my (our) retirement and what I (we) do with it. That's a whole different issue anyway -- and for you to say we've never been where you are (committed and responsible) is ridiculous, and I'm sure glad I didn't serve with you and have you watching my back. So I'm not going to waste any more time with you ...

It seems it does not matter what anyone says here, you will go on a tirade. It also seems you have it in on for retires. Many of us were the working class, and during a unpopular war. We had to manage in a recession, which was a full blown recession in the 70's on little income. We waited in gas lines, and did with out, the money to buy a home or move, because interest rates were so high. Though you think you are the only one trying to make ends meet. Many of us retirees are trying our best, to afford the gas increases as everyone else, along with food etc. My husband as many retirees were, in the military, when they had to sleep in one room barracks, and had to tow the line or else. My husband served 39 years, and the rules and regulations had changed vastly, to coddle the service members, who were given every opportunity, growing up. I guess that is our fault, that there is a generation of I want it now or else. I think if we took a vote here, you would loose. If I was you I would count my Blessings, that you are serving state side, and not on your third tour, in Iraq or Afghanistan.
How much do you pay for your RV, could you put that money towards other accommodation? It also so sounds like there are two able body adults who can work, so what is the problem. Most young people today spend and charge, and do not have a cent left, because they need the latest electronics, designer clothes, and eat out, often. We only ate out for birthdays and anniversaries. Though I choose to stay home and raise our children, I made sure we had money put aside for emergencies. We watched every penny and did not buy anything, or should I say charge anything unless we could afford it. You are being condescending to a different generation, who worked hard and saved. They did not buy things they could not afford, and mostly did not feel entitled. You seem to want to begrudge us of the benefits we worked for, and saved to get to this point. I guess you think you are the only one effected by the economy. We have been here before and are used to sacrificing.

Now for the 4th of July you are keep mentioning. You say you would be glad to move if the park is full, so what is your problem. I'm sure there are many families, who are not retired, who want your space. You crone about retires wanting everything, but there are others who are able to qualify for Famcamps benefits, like civilian DOD, and other military personal, who do not homestead. Do you think this is unfair and they should give up a spot for you. I think you should grow up, and let's see how you feel when you are retired.

Don't tell me you can't find a place to stay. It's not our fault you can't manage your money, but you want us to give you a break. I'll bet no one has spit at you for wearing the uniform? So don't you dare mouth off to these vets who earn what you havn't yet. I might be old , but I'll bet this old Marine could still kick your ungreatful ass!! My DI used to say excuses are like assholes everyone's got one. Grow up and start doing what this country is paying you to do!